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Wilderness Voice
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 04:26 am |
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I’m writing this partly because of a recent discussion I had with Guitarist63 and Holdsworth. It is not them that reminded me of this and no connection should be made. It’s just that the scripture that was made so real to me in writing about it would not let me go.
Then in prayer I saw something that I knew was more of the real meaning, the real “why” behind the scripture. And I also saw how it would help one to know this – but at first it would be very, very painful to face. The truth of it was so strong as to be shocking. I told me wife and she exclaimed “Oh my, I never saw it that way - that is so horrible.” And I agreed. All day long I’ve both wanted to reveal this, but also have been saying: “God, I can’t print that. God, it will hurt people so bad. God what if they don’t see or understand the healing that you want to bring them on the other side of this?”
I can’t help but think of the delicate spiritual condition many are in. Not that they can’t take a nudge or two. Or a slight rebuke. Or a helpful exhortation. But I don’t want anyone to despair. Sin can be such a great despair to those caught in it. Many, many times they see no way out.
So before I write what I saw, I have to tell you that God will forgive you and can forgive the most vile sinner. We are all vile sinners. God will dry your tears of repentance and sorrow. And God will help you convert and be not the same as you were. God will reveal the pain that the enemy has caused you and the degradation he has brought to you. God will destroy the works of the devil with His Truth. I pray this will help you face the Truth I so often speak of. May God bring healing to your souls from the works the enemy has worked upon you. Yes, there are sins many. But what follows is dealing with masturbation – that and many things surrounding it.
The scripture is II Timothy 3:1-4: This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
I personally believe that masturbation has become a plague upon the earth and a sign of the last days. But that is not what is important in this writing: it is men [and women] being lovers of their own selves. It is one of the reasons that the time spoken of is perilous. Perilous is life-threatening, dangerous. To be in immediate danger. What love could cause one to be in such peril? It is not the Love of God. It is not the Love of your brethren. It is not even the proper love and respect for your self that considers yourself a child of God. No, men loving their own selves in such a way to create a state of peril is that self-love, self-gratification that is corrosive and blinded. It may be more than masturbation, but masturbation would certainly fall under the category of men being lovers of their own selves. They are their own sex partner.
Now imagine this. Picture a group of people, or even one person, not yourself. Imagine that they become angry, resentful, hungry, upset, irritable, they feel empty inside, they feel full, they are lonely, want attention, want affection. Maybe they have low self-esteem or feel that no one wants them. Would you walk up to someone feeling this way and take them aside and masturbate them as a way to make them feel better? Masturbate them when they’re angry, when they’re resentful, feel empty inside – need comfort? Would you masturbate someone else to bring them comfort? Wouldn’t this be a most perverse way of showing your love for someone?
Then the question has to be asked: why do this to yourself? Why show this sort of perverse love to yourself because no one else will, or you really don’t want anyone else to. Can you see how ugly this is? We go about masturbating ourselves for this reason or that reason. But whatever reason, it is in God’s eyes a completely abnormal and perverse response to the application of love. It is a dangerous and perilous love that is not really love at all. An orgasm will never cure any of these things. We would never think of bringing such a thing as a cure to someone else. Why bring it to ourselves?
Can you see how the devil has degraded us? He has tricked us into doing the most degrading things believing that pleasure somehow made us feel better. When the truth is it makes us feel worse and worse and worse. And addicted. Pretty soon all kinds of problems and upsetting conditions find their answer in masturbation. This should not be.
People, really think about what it is you are doing to yourself and how offensive it is to God that you would treat one of his children such a way – yourself. You are molesting and mistreating yourself and giving a completely improper response to the other troubles you have in your life.
May God give us the courage to see exactly what it is that we are repenting of, so that we really develop an utter distaste for it. That it isn’t tempting in the least – that we would get to the point that we are never tempted by that which is most abhorrent to us because God so graciously gave us a little piece of His Eyes.
I pray this helps some of you that are finding it so hard to break the cycle. Realize exactly what it is that the devil is asking you to do. That he has tricked you into seeing something as desirable when it isn’t desirable at all.
Wilderness Voice
P.S. If Jesus came to you and showed you someone, and said "This one I love." How would you treat them?
May the Love of Christ shine so strongly within that all wordly bonds are broken.
Last edited on Tue Mar 25th, 2008 04:41 am by Wilderness Voice
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 08:09 am |
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Wilderness,
I haven't been in this forum for much more than a week and there has been more reading than replying. Out of all the posts I have read, I feel you have combined all enlightened words that has helped me into this post.
I have not been a spiritual man. I have only played through the motions to help me believe I am. I have always agreed with my wife when she was able to show me where I am going and how wrong it is. Nothing ever hit me harder than when I found this forum, hearing the prayers, pain, and struggles so many are going through. Both men and women. Both addicts and family of addicts.
I can only assume that you had a long hard struggle to get to where you are in life with God. Hearing your special story about your easter only proves that being hear, and listenning to Gods words does help soften the heart. It does help me understand that I am not alone and God is just.
Thank you for sharing with us. I am seeing some light brighter, though I am just realizing how selfcentered and selfish I am. I can only pray that I will endure the path to the Truth. After what has transpired inside of me within the last two weeks of opening my eyes to my sins, I am praying for the answers, for the wisdom, so I won't go backwards.
I believe in our Lord God. I believe he is mercifull. I believe he loves all his children.
I am not sure if I have ever truly loved God. I have soul searched more now than ever before, and I don't know if I can say that and feel like I am speaking the truth. I have been a hipacrit for all my life. Raised to understand that you give your love to our Lord first, then family, etc. I have always believed I was living that life. I would get into arguments with my wife, because she always felt like she was on the bottom. The fact is I was the only one on the top of the list. Then came myself again, and maybe if she needed me more that work or more than our children, she would be next. I have to truthfully say that God may have been first at times in my life, but only when pleasing myself wasn't enough.
For the past 5 years I have been wanting to be able to pray to God, to our Lord Jesus, outloud, with my wife and family. To this day I can only remember two times when I have succeeded in a verbal prayer with my wife. Each time was after I she pried out of me the sins I have done.
My only hope for salvation from this is that I came looking for help before she told me. It still took a few nudges from her to open my eyes enough to see how terribly selfish I always was.
Anyway, thank you for sharing in the words God has shown you. They just may help some of us find our souls, find the TRUTH.
Peace be with everyone.
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Everyone has fear. It is in God that we can overcome and persever.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 06:25 pm |
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Wilderness Voice, yes it is ugly and yes I do want to stop. How? God will show a way.
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