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Inearthed
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 06:46 am |
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Well, I'm so far on day two, far from there, but I've been browsing these boards and have a question for those who have gone 1 month or more without "M".
Withdrawal from chemical addictions usually requires a "re-wiring" of the brain, as the chemical presence in the brain decreases. This period is miserable, but it does get better, when the brain returns to "normal". With "M" withdrawal, at least for me, it is miserable, but it never gets better; if anything, the urges just continue building. Does this ever end (I have never had it end for me, but I haven't gone too long...), and a decrease in lustful urges follow (to a point, of course). Or does it just plateau somewhere? Or does it just continue to build (I doubt it).
Also, could someone please fill me in on these chemical castration drugs/procedure. I'm kinda curious to see what it is and how it works.
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Jon
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Paulos
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 03:37 pm |
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Hello, Inearthed.
Sexual pressure will ease in time if disciplined. Here's an ancient piece of wisdom from the Babylonian Talmud: "Rabbi Yohanan said: A man has [on his body] a small member. If he starves it, it is satisfied; if he satisfies it, it is starved" (Bavli Sukkah 52b). I know of no more arresting way to make the point, though many of the church fathers also spoke of a cooling of desire.
The Freudian concept of a sex "drive" that builds pressure inexorably like a steam engine until it requires an outlet is pervasive in our popular culture but is simply false. Sex researchers are actually moving to a different model of desire. It's now widely recognized that sexual desire is a function of sexual activity itself. That is, sexual behavior stimulates the craving that leads to further sexual activity. Stop the behavior, and the craving will eventually lie down.
I wouldn't be interested at all in using chemicals to decrease desire. God gave us our sexual potential and it isn't for us to mess with that.
Last edited on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 03:38 pm by Paulos
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 01:59 am |
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Hello Inearthed.
You and i have thought alike in this manner. I have also wondered if there was ever a time period of abstinence where the urge to masturbate would decrease. For me it seem like the only relief i would ever get would be the few minutes after M when the lust seemed to dissapear... only to reappear soon after.
I have thought about chemical castration drugs and tried to do some basic research on the net about it. I can't find any specific drug that is recommended for a SA, only antidepressants that have a side effect of lowering the libido (amoung other side effects), finasteride for hairloss also has a side effect of lowering the libido. For actual chemical castration a whole different type of drug is used and apparently it is quite effective however from the male population just sex offenders seem to get prescribed these and they also may have severe side effects.
I think Paulos is correct in the quote he provided. I sincerely believe that you and i have had our brain rewired to believe a lie. We really believe that sex is not optional and we need it. I believe firmly that by not engaging in fantasy, staring at women, revealing photos, porn and no masturbating then in time the urges will subside to a more reasonable manner. Please note i have not gone a month yet. But i have surpassed my previous wall of resistance which was a big deal for me. Of course the ironic thing is that in order to achieve this subsiding of desire we need to be clean for a period whether that be a month or whatever. To achieve that can be a great struggle for some. For me it has been.
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 03:43 pm |
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Well, the urges seem to be there. Sometimes I feel it quite strongly.. but maybe it will decrease after a while. Maybe someone who has gone long can tell...
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