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Addiction Is Hell
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maitken
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 Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 04:54 am
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Addictions can happen to anyone and everyone, whether it be, video games addiction, food addiction, computer addiction, music addiction etc etc. They can be stopped by your power of will and mental strength.

I am a teenager/student and have just stared to realise how bad and wrong pornography is and am in the process of giving it up for good.
When I started I thought it was a harmless thing that everyone does, until it started to affect my life and the way I look at things around me.

Whenever I used the computer looking at porn came almost automatic, like a fix to escape things for a minute, I dont feel comfortable admitting to it, but I want to live a happy healthy physically and mentally normal life. If everyone can help each other out we can all beat porn addiction.

It got to the stage where more or less my penis took control of me, always wanting more and more, anything for a next fix and that was scary, but now I'm in control. Although my hormones arent giving up without a fight, my penis erects frequently trying to get me to look at porn or masturbate. Masturbating isnt a bad thing but I think using it for the wrong reasons is, its hard to explain. Like what you think of while you masturbate, if it's raping someone then thats bad and you need help umm if it's having sex with someone you know thats fine and normal at least I think it is, I'm no expert.

So please, if you read this give me some advice to help myself get better.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 05:06 am
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As far as I understand when it comes to addiction allthough I haven't experienced it enough maybe in my own life, is that addiction can't be controlled with will-power. That's not enough..

Be blessed Maitken

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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2008 09:47 am
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Addictions cant be stopped with will power alone, if this was possible all addicts could just 'think' themselves free.
People need to develop effective methods to deal with addictions, and that requires finding out whats causing it in the first place.
Also, asuming that your christian as your posting in a christian forum, its not going to hurt to get God involved; Jesus died to set the captives free after all.
Purhaps He should be your first point of call?

Its not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit says the Lord!

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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2008 01:13 pm
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Hi Lilly

It might not be so easy to just involve God or? It might be more easy said than done or?  

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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2008 04:20 pm
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Yeah this is the thing i dont really understand.
Not easy to involve God? He already is involved.
And whats so hard about admitting your fault before Him?
His thoughts towards us are more than all the grains of sand on all the earth! His thoughts towards you...towards everyone individually are more numerous than the grains of sand! Now if that isnt a God who loves us and wants the best for us, i dont know what is.

Its isnt a secret...or mystery to be able to call on the Lord, or seek His presence; although pride and lack of humility will hinder the process, and prevent us from feeling His presence.
Denial is a powerfull thing, and its sad to see people suffering while having the tools to connect with God.
He is like the air we breath, He is everywhere and always with us.




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Hi Lilly

It might not be so easy to just involve God or? It might be more easy said than done or? "

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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2008 06:32 pm
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Well thanks for the advice both of you and maybe yes will power isent enough to win over your addictions but I think it does help dramaticly and I have been doing very well and for the first time I have control over me and its a great feeling. Also I am christian but am not a full god beleiver and if things are going the way they are I'll be able to help myself.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2008 07:49 pm
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hi lily,
you said it is sad to see people suffer when they have the tools to connect with God.

does that mean you will not suffer if your connected to God?

and conversely do those not connected always suffer?

hi maitken,
you said you are a christian but not a full God believer.
please, what does that mean?

thanks,
peter



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junkyardboy wrote: hi lily,
you said it is sad to see people suffer when they have the tools to connect with God.

does that mean you will not suffer if your connected to God?

and conversely do those not connected always suffer?

hi maitken,
you said you are a christian but not a full God believer.
please, what does that mean?

thanks,
peter


Hey Peter,
What i ment was that within all of us, we have the ability to meet with God everyday and in every place, but some people dont see that they can....i feel this is sad, because going through tough times with only a belief in God is more of a struggle than when we connect with Gods spirit.
I feel that in life suffering iis inevitable, but living with Holy Spirit and connecting with Him makes that suffering more endurable.
To be more specific i was refering to the demished faith in people when they feel God cant set them free or break strong holds.
Spending time in the presence of God reveals, confirms and builds the truth that He can do all things.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2008 04:09 am
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junkyardboy wrote

I was baptised and all but I dont go to church every sunday etc, get what I mean?
Thanks for your help, I'm doing very well.

hi maitken,
you said you are a christian but not a full God believer.
please, what does that mean?

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 Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2008 10:59 am
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Read this and still confused.  Maybe I'm too old to know these things.  Does the phrase "not a full God believer," now mean "I don't go to church every Sunday?"

Why would these sayings have a connection?  I thought you either believed in God or you didn't.  Maybe a more correct phrase would be "I'm not completely faithful."

Nevertheless, I personally think that unbelief is a piece of the issue of habitual sin.  At least what could be termed as a waivering of faith and periods or moments of doubt and unbelief at the time of the commission of sin.  Go back to the account of Adam and Eve and see the role that unbelief played when they partook of the fruit of the forbidden tree.  They doubted the words of God and found out too late that those words were absolutely the truth.  They did die from eating of the tree, just like God said they would.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 05:32 am
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"not a full God believer" is correct, I know he does some amazing things sometimes to individuals.. anyway I dont want to go down that path can we please just stick to to the subject at hand?

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 Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 08:23 am
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Hi Maitken,
Just dropped in to say that I'm honored for you to seek help here.

Maitken, for me, faith to God in ALL things is the elementary basis of my walk in purity.
Let me describe some examples:
1. In james 5:16, Confess your sins to one another that you may be healed.
2. In Mat 5, cut off your right arm if it causes you to sin
3. In John 4, Christ told us that we can only be satisfied in Him.

I need to have faith to follow Him, and His ways. But let me tell you Maitken, I've been freed for 5 months now, and it was all because His commands, and His ways, ALL BY HIS GRACE, Praise the Lord!

So, I'm looking forward for you to grow your faith in Him.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 01:42 pm
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Maitken

I say this not to press the issue further with you, but perhaps to make you feel more at ease.  If by "not a full God believer," you mean that you don't believe everything the churches or individuals say about God - or that some proclaimed miracles may not actually be real - I think you might find that many of us here, hold similar feelings.

But my Faith in God Himself is boundless.  Not that I possess something of myself, manufactured by myself.  But rather that God Himself deserves the credit and the trust and the honor for the Boundless Being and Faithful God that He is.  As the scripture says: in

Lamentations 3: [21] This I recall to my mind, therefore have I hope.  [22] It is of the LORD's mercies that we are not consumed, because His compassions fail not.  [23] They are new every morning: Great is Thy Faithfulness.
[24] The LORD is my portion, saith my soul; therefore will I hope in Him.
[25] The LORD is Good unto them that wait for Him, to the soul that seeketh Him.
And of Jesus it is said in:

Revelations:19[11] And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True . . .

My portion of Faith is as nothing - I can feel this way one minute and that way the next - but this I do know - that God Himself is Faithful - God is Trustworthy - God never ceases to watch over His own ones.  So the little tiny Faith that I possess is mighty and great - not because of me - but because of the Greatness in Whom my feeble trust is placed.  He knows me - He knows my thoughts - He knows my heart - He knows my circumstances - all of this He knows in ways and in depths more than my mind can possibly know about myself - He can see what I cannot see, even in my own heart.  And He brings to bear in each ones life that which is of the greatest good for them - it may be sufferings and pain and heartache - it may be provisions and blessings of joy.  Whatever comes from the Hand of God is for our ultimate good whether we see it that way at the moment or not.  The problems enter in and are compounded when we refuse to accept what God has for us.  When we rebel and want our own way.  This act of pride is at the root of all wrongs in our spiritual makeup.  But God will correct us if we let Him and don't refuse the correction that He sends.  As we have been foolish and terrible judges of what was good for us in the past - we should not believe in our own wisdom to say "This is what I need for me to be healed," or "That doesn't help me, I need this, but not that - no not that - that isn't good for me - it makes me feel bad."  Trust God - He is Faithful.

Wilderness Voice

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 Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 08:21 pm
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Thanks for the advice guys, I think I might get a little more connected with god to help me though the forces of evil and addiction. Because you dont need satisfaction through emptyness and pornography when you have god and others around you to be satisfied with life. So when I get urges I think of how far I've come and that masturbation isent the answer to bordem or satisfaction and that I have family and friends support to conquer over evil.

Matt


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